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Meeting set to explore new civic association for Church Hill North (UPDATEDX2)
The newly reconstituted Church Hill North Civic Association will meet on Tuesday, September 29th from 7-9PM in the first floor conference room at the EDI Building at 701 N. 25th Street. The general boundaries of representation include properties within the Church Hill North Old and Historic District, Chimborazo Old and Historic District and north of M St from 25th Street to 35th Street. Contact Laura Daab at laura@mysterydinner.com for more information.
The group originally mentioned and the 2nd meeting mention have moved to join forces.
The original post and update:
A new civic association is being formed to represent the residents between 25th and 32nd, Nine Mile, and somewhere around M Street. A meeting will be held on Saturday, October 10, at 10AM at the Robinson Theater. Contact David at david.conmy@gmail.com for more information.
UPDATE: There is also an effort to resurrect the Church Hill North Civic Association, who used to represent the area from the alley north of Broad to M Street or so. Meeting date TBA.
Something is needed, good to see both a CH North and Oakwood/Chimbo groups getting going. Interesting boundaries though. Our house is like right at the intersection of all 3 groups. :-/
Who came up with this “Church Hill North” name and when?
I’m between Broad and Marshall so my ‘Church Hill North’ home is not included. Too bad since one of the issues I have with CHA is there is no serious attempt to include African Americans. The Church Hill majority. It would be great if CHA left the south of Broad meeting venue for most of the meetings and met in various locations through out its ‘territory’.
I’m curious how the CHA has not made an attempt to include African Americans?
My question is – who came up with the boundaries? I have owned a home on 23rd for four years, and it seems those on 23rd or 24th are not included in this. Where does this leave us? Hmmph…. I guess whoever came up with the idea and the boundaries doesn’t care.
I won’t enter into a debate over why or if the CHA is not inclusive. It’s clearly not in my opinion. A view shared by many others. Nuff said (by me).
I am assuming that the original incarnation of the Church Hill North O&H isn’t working as there doesn’t seem to be any rules enforced concerning restoration, infills, repurposing, and demolition nor the infrastructure of the community. No officers whatsoever.
Cadeho… the Church Hill North designation has been around for many years. Anything “North” of Broad is considered “North” as the St. John’s Historical refused way back to include anything North of Broad within the “Church Hill” group even though there are more “older” houses from the 300 block upwards than below – just because of demographics then. There was also an attempt in the 1980s to create a North district and gentrify it but was met with resistance until many of the houses ended boarded up and/or condemned. Once there was a new interest in our area and houses being restored, the North Church Hill Old and Historic area was created and listed on the National Register of Historic Places meaning there are to be guidelines as to what can and can’t be done. But that seems to have never gotten off the ground so… maybe this new Civic Group will stir things up especially when the C.A.R. is basically a joke when it comes to enforcing plans and rules.
Interesting timing. There is an effort underway to resurrect the Church Hill North Civic Association. A group will be meeting at the EDI at the end of September. Date TBA.
Help. Not sure where I would fall in. I am on 32nd, between Marshall and Clay.
Doesnt look like I fit CH North. Can anyone help?
Thanks.
The strict imposition of antiquated procedure and the literal shouting down of commenters as “out of order” by members at CHA meetings is at least one major exclusionary factor. Those tactics are used on everyone, though.
Yes I would be curious as well. I’m sure that #3 will now give us some specific examples of there being “no serious attempt to include African Americans” in CHA.
Thank you in advance for sharing.
The Church Hill North Civic Association boundaries included, according to one of the original members “started at the alley just North of Broad and extended as far out as there were habitable houses. (back then that was M Street or so.)”
I believe the group forming, not the group that is the subject of this thread, but the resurrected CHNCA, would like to honor those original boundaries and discuss inclusion North of M at the meeting.
I completely understand the desire to organize efforts that will better
represent one’s neighborhood. It seems that the timing is right for such
endeavors, or possibly, the realization that the CHA does not and cannot
encompass Church Hill in it’s entirety. One thing is certain: different
areas of Church Hill have different issues that need addressing. Hyper-
local involvement seems to be the order of the day.
I believe that the St John’s boundaries, the Church Hill North OHD
boundaries, Chimborazo OHD boundaries and the boundaries that I mentioned
above for another proposed area all have different needs. We are one
community, but I think it is clear that with the advent of UHCA and the
newly formed Chimborazo/Oakwoods CA, our Church Hill North Civic Association endeavor and the possibility of the above CA that the people of our community see a need for change, and better representation with the city around those needs.
@Lady E – If you’re on 23rd or 24th, you’ve already got a civic association. If you’re close to Broad, there is the Church Hill Association. If you’re north of Jefferson Avenue, you’ve got the Union Hill Civic Association. North of Carrington has New Visions. North of Fairmount has Unity Civic League. There is a rough map at the bottom of this post that outlines where the associations seem to represent.
@Confused – You are near the overlap of where the new Oakwood-Chimborazo Association would seek to represent, the far edge of where the CHA seems to have effective representation, and where the resurrected Church Hill North Association would cover. I’d say hit up all the meetings and see who shares your interests and concerns.
I think Laura is right. We need to have an as powerful and productive (and inclusive) civic assocition other then CHA. Of which i’m a member … for now. It would be a shame to split up into too many groups thereby weakning the possiblities.
Very good. Diana, there isn’t a necessary problem if there are a lot of civic groups – it allows for more personable relationships. However, what is necessary is for the leaders of the groups to work together in a way that improves the entire East End – not just one area or another. The East End fractures itself too easily in a us vs. them mentality, when it should be a us + US (smaller groups working together as a whole) = Future mentality.
Sounds good.
The Church Hill North Civic Association meeting will be held Tuesday, September 29th from 7-9 pm in the first floor conference room at the EDI Building at 701 N. 25th Street.
Both groups mentioned in this thread have agreed to combine efforts. The boundaries included all properties within Church Hill North Old and Historic District, Chimborazo Old and Historic District and residents north of M St from 25th Street to 35th approximately.
We have included Chimborazo/Oakwood area because there are some folks from over there that expressed interest in attending.
We are inviting all six 7th district Council candidates and will request that they give us a brief rundown of their platforms and a chance for people to ask question/concerns.
Sharon Burton will be facilitating the meeting and she can be reached at scburton@comcast.net
I, Laura Daab, am serving as the meeting coordinator and “Girl Friday.” I can be reached at laura@mysterydinner.com
As someone recently suggested to me it might be confusing to CHA members where the meetings are in any givin week if they moved the meetings around. If a Church Hill North group fails to form and or have the necassary strength to impact the neighborhood I would suggest to CHA that they begin to meet every other time a location well north of Broad. Odd months in one location and even months in the other.
Just a quick note regarding Diana’s initial post (#3): Take a look at those who attend the CHA meetings, notice they are (mostly) white, then ask yourself why no diversity is present when plenty of African Americans live, *gasp*, North of Broad. I’ve been to several meetings and have yet to see a person of color in attendance. Like Diana, I find that unpleasantly odd considering the overall demographic that is Church Hill.
While I’m not a member of CHA. I would imagine that any resident regardless of race would be welcome to attend one of their meetings. Perhaps it’s just that the white residents are more active in such organizations than African Americans. I’m sure if an African American were to show up, they would not be asked to leave…
What Diana seemed to be saying is not that African American’s aren’t welcomed, but that there isn’t an attempt to make sure that is well known. When you walk into a room with a lot black people in it, do you not get a bit intimidated? Many of us white folk have even uttered the words, “But I’ll be the only white person there.” That’s exactly how a solitary *other* person feels, too, which is something important to keep in mind.
Thanks Crystal, I hope that people living north of Broad will come to the meeting tomorrow to show their support. Hopefully people from other civic associations will attend as well to offer their input.
Church Hill Central Civic Association has ‘soft boundaries’ that include the areas from 25th St. to 35th St. and Nine Mile to E. Broad St. But all interested people are welcome to join.
are homes literally on the northern side of Broad Street considered “North of Broad”? Their address is Broad St and they are in the St. John’s O&H
St. John’s Old and Historic area, for the most part, extends to the alley between Broad and Marshall. But it does zig zag some.
People who attend Church Hill Central meetings live throughout Church Hill including south of Broad. Boundaries are not an issue with CHCCA as much as it’s intention to be an inclusive and positive venue for bringing neighbors together for mutual benefit.