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Council to consider appointing Bilder, Wimmer to CAR
07/05/2012 1:12 PM by John M
The agenda for the Monday, July 9 City Council meeting (PDF) contains the following items (and 32 others):
Res. No. 2012-R91 (Patron: All Members of Council) – To appoint Joshua Bilder as a member of the Commission of Architectural Review ***.
Res. No. 2012-R92 (Patron: All Members of Council) – To reappoint Jennifer Inez Wimmer as a member of the Commision of Architectural Review ***.
Bilder, an an award-winning developer, is perhaps best known locally as the owner of the dilapidated theater on 25th Street since early 2010.
This would have worked better as an April Fool joke some months ago,than right now.
Yeah…at first it made me wonder what council’s thinking…but then I realized that ‘council thinking’ is pretty much an oxymoron.
Yeah right… April Fools. Seriously, Bilder on the council will only be substituting Johannas since they work together with their ideas.
And so far Bilder hasn’t done much by way of keeping a high profile especially when it comes to his “theater” investment that sits years later with mulitple violations.
Do you want yet another perrson who dodges questions to represent the city?
Speaking of the theater, has anyone else noticed that a SUP has been filed for the theater to include 39 apartments and 1 retail space?
http://www.richmondgov.com/planninganddevelopmentreview/documents/LandUseLogbook.pdf
Are there really no better options for CAR? I think the homeless people down by the Exxon station would seriously be better choices than people with these clear conflicts of interests.
The city needs to pick people who are NOT active in the districts they are approving for. Anything less sets up all kinds of bullshit where they can slip whatever they want through. If its going to be this crooked, no committee at all is better because at least it would be consistent.
Anyone else want to bring some pictures of Mr. Bilder’s theater to the meeting to be sure the Council is aware of his contributions to the community? If he gets confirmed, you can bet he’ll ram something pretty through in that location.
Josh Bilder would be a nightmare on CAR! If they already don’t make enough questionable decisions about properties in a historic district. Bilder should be ashamed of that dump festering on 25th street. It’s a complete eyesore and cancer on the neighborhood. Folks like this should be run out of the city let alone be appointed to any city position!
Josh Bilder has applied for a special use permit for the theater. It proposes a four story apartment project with an addition that would enlarge the footprint to the property line of the house on the corner, would have 39 small apartments, with only 10 parking spaces across 25th St. His architect is Walter Parks, of the McDonald’s projects below Church Hill.
The City Zoning office has responded with serious complaints regarding the density (195 people per acre, more dense than any project nearby by more than 70; our neighborhood is now at 21 per acre); the lack of open outdoor space for the residents; the closeness to the house next door (I live there); the lack of adequate street access for some residents; no trash removal plan; and more.
Bilder has not responded to the Zoning Office’s comments. Also, he has been denied tax credits by the Virginia Office of Historic Preservation because of the project’s expansion and scale in this neighborhood. Every city official within the land use and building approval process with whom I have spoken has serious concerns about Bilder’s proposed theater project.
We, in this neighborhood, would be happy to see the building rehabilitated and are not opposed to an appropriately scaled and well-appointed apartment building. But Mr. Bilder has pushed forward with a terribly conceived and overly dense project for this neighborhood, even in the face of official doubts and criticism at each step.
Though he would have to recuse himself from consideration of his own project, Bilder would seem to be an inappropriate choice for appointment to the CAR at this time. City Council will also be the final judge of his theater project.
Whether or not he is appointed to CAR, Bilder is scheduled to discuss the theater proposal at the Church Hill Association meeting on July 17th. Anyone who would like to know more and is interested should attend that meeting.
Sounds like the lava lofts fiasco all over again. Rejected by everyone until it reaches city council, ….
Great post Valerie.
I think the case against Bilder can summed up as:
1. He’s demonstrated a willingness to try to shove through questionable projects already.
CAR’s mission as I understand it is to preserve the neighborhood. I would assume their stakeholders would be the homeowners within that neighborhood? If that’s the case, why does the current CAR membership look like a rogue’s gallery of the most reviled developers? The theater is an easy piece of evidence that the community has not found Bilder to be the best judge of what is appropriate.
2. There’s also a macro-level concern about the appropriateness of selecting developers and architects active in the area to the committee. Doing so open up some serious conflict of interest potential. Recusing one’s self from the discussion is not enough. When your peers are also bringing projects for you to approve later, do you really think they’ll not look fondly on your crap? You’re virtually guaranteed to get whatever you want through.
Also, how many of you hold a position where you can judge one of your professional competitor’s work and stop them from moving forward if you want?
I’d love to see this become a part of the discussion also as it’s the only way to really fix what’s wrong with CAR. Drop the active members with conflicts of interests or require them to stop practicing in the districts until their term ends. Replace them with homeowners and/or architects from outside the area.
From the City website on CAR:
— Membership Composition
The CAR is composed of nine members appointed by City Council. Five of the members are citizens-at-large while the remaining four are appointed from a list of nominees from the Association for the Preservation of Virginia Antiquities, the The American Institute of Architects Richmond (Virginia) Chapter , the Historic Richmond Foundation, and the Richmond Association of Realtors. —
Question: What group or Council member sponsored Bilder?
Interesting how the Church Hill Association Board rejected the recommendation of its own Zoning Committee to oppose the Special Use Permit for the property. Is there a disconnect here? Good the fight against Echo Harbor was well established prior to this.
@10 – according to this application, it sounds like he’s one of the citizens at large?
http://eservices.ci.richmond.va.us/applications/clerkstracking/getPDF.asp?NO=2012-R91
IMO, the section where Bilder lists his qualifications is exactly why he should NOT be nominated. Being a developer in old and historic districts is a conflict of interest, not a qualification.
The Church Hill Association meeting on July 17th will give the membership a chance to look closely at Bilder’s proposal. City Zoning officials will also attend that meeting to answer any questions that may come up, as well as to clarify any confusion about what their objections are to the Special Use Permit application.
If this project is to be modified to be more in keeping with a rational development of Church Hill, the Church Hill Association and Church Hill residents will have to become involved in the process–soon.
Thanks for the info, Alex.
So, according to his application document, Bilder is supported by Johannas and Wimmer, who are currently members of CAR. I don’t know whether this has any legitimate significance or not.
But, I do think it is significant IF Bilder uses Johannas as an architect for his projects. There is potential for a HUGE conflict if this is the case.
Does anyone know if there is a Bilder/Johannas professional relationship?
Valerie,
We HAVE trying to be involved! Have you not seen the numerous comments over the past couple of years on “Under the Radar”?! Bilder has promised to keep us informed, only to NOT keep us informed. 39 cramped apartments and 1 retail space is not what we expected. I think we would all agree that something needs to be done with that space, but this is ridiculous. As residents of the area, we just want some input. Now, you suggest that we must “become involved in the process-soon”? Where have you been? Giving Bilder a back rub? Lets come together and get this done in a way that satisfies all of us. However, I think it is clear that Bilder, who lists you as one of his referrals on this application, is going to do what puts the most money in his pockets. If he really cared about the residents, he wouldn’t have been so secretive. His reputation is getting worse and worse, and he needs to go away and learn some manners. We don’t trust him or those associated with him; the blogs say it all.
Ray,
Bilder used Johannas as his architect for the Sterling Row Condominiums. Could be others, but that is listed on the website for those condos. This is a no winner for the community if he is appointed.
Sam,
I am not aware that I am listed as a reference, and I never gave any such permission, nor have I been contacted by him or the city about his application.
I share your frustration as my husband and I also asked Mr. Bilder to be kept informed about the project next door to our house. We only recently learned of his Special Use Permit application and, then, only through the Zoning Office.
His architect for this project is Walter Parks, of the McDonald’s apartments on Marshall Street.
I suggested that interested residents of Church Hill get involved soon because the issue will be discussed at the July 17th CHAssoc. meeting. Mr. Bilder is on the agenda; and City Zoning personnel plan also to attend.
Bilder’s company bought the two vacant lots across the street from the theater last December. Houses sit to the right of them. I hope the intent is to not convert them into parking lots for his apartment complex.
When it comes down to it I believe Council woman Cynthia Newbille is a lot to blame. If you recall there was a lot of initial controversy when she was appointed because first she didn’t even live in the 7th District and at the last minute rented a newer house in the Urban Redevelopment section. She has been vocal about “progress” verses “preservation” in the past concerning the Elementary School conversion. Also, our grassroots group that failed tried to get her involved and show her examples of what is happening to our historic area with her “promise” to get back to us but she shunned us instead.
And there is lack of participation of people to get involved to voice their opinions against City Hall. There seems to be a lack of overall general interest when it comes to government on local levels these days. I have see what are called dismal turnouts for city council votes and look at the mayor Jones who was uncontested. There are thousand of people living in the 7th District which is basically the historic area yet look at this CHPN forum any given day on any given subject and you will see maybe 5 or 6 regular people posting comments. Is that the sort of representation we are talking about that can make a difference? I don’t think so.
And yes, having people who own companies or is active in their fields is a conflict of interest when one is supposed to be impartial when it comes to imposing rules and judging designs to conform to them. Not inject their own designs to conflict or loosely conform to written guidelines.
As for the theater, on May 29, 2008 inspector Orestis Marcoyiannakis said this about it: ” The only thing for me to do since there appears to be no concern of what happens to this building is to tear it down. It surpasses all criteria for demolition from the missing roof down to the soil mechanics from exposed earth, so this will be the final step for a permanent resolution. ” Not long after this the demolition request was halted by the owner who had an executive position on MCV’s council and I am sure some palms were greased or favors called in. It has sat unchanged ever since.
There was also threats to have the roof replaced and promises to do so but again, that never happened.
So, the building is still as far as the inspector was concerned past criteria for demolition as it sits today so why hasn’t anything ever been done to shore it up, clean it up, fix it up?
Also just want to mention that when there was an issue with new infills in CHN, one local confronted Johannas about their design opinions and his was that he is not interested in historic preservation. So, with that attitude alone should also raise red flags!
Enough with the ad hominem attacks against Josh Bilder. Sterling Row in Shockoe Bottom (brick arch on 19th) and his projects in Carver, including the nicest green roof in Richmond, show him to be far more in line with sympathetic design than any of you give him credit. Get informed.
Did anyone go oppose his appointment at Council?
Did he get appointed?
There are so many inaccuracies and lies in these posts it is hard to know where to start.
Dear Neighbor… I am sure his designs fit in on outskirt or suburban areas but have no place within historic districts. The idea is to “blend in” seamlessly and not stand out. Placing a modernistic roof on a 1930s Art Deco building, one of the last in Richmond, is like putting a sequin gown on the Mona Lisa. It just doesn’t fly.
dear Dear Neighbor. You obviously are a schill. Bilder is only ‘in line’ on this theatre design (after the third architect – walter parks – could come up with a profitable design = 40 small units!) with the highest density project ever in this area and 10 parking spots – YES – in the two sunken lots he has bought across the street. YOU must be the one giving Bilder the “back rub”.
Concerned,
There are actually 3 vacant lots across the street from the theater, Bilder owning two of them starting September and December 2011. They measure 24×89 feet each (48×89 total) while the third is owned by someone else and is the corner lot! It is only 24×62 feet and being his sits between it and a house, I doubt a parking lot or deck will be built there? But then again… anything of the likes will be out of place on that side of the block with houses to the right and behind of Victorian era.
Possibly someone else can dig further on this or bring it up at the meeting?
Nobody sees the irony in calling Bilder secretive while you post under a pseudonym? As far as Ms. newbille goes……it is clear she only listens to whatever group has her ear. She has never returned a phone call or kept an appointment in my dealings with her. Ask her why she can plant trees on the narrowest sidewalks(Venable) in Union hill,rendering them nearly impassable…….and not find the money to put trashcans on the corners of the same street. Oh,and how come the dump is still closed for household waste after ten unexplainable months ? Code enforcement is writing folks up like theres a bounty and you cant use a longtime neighborhood resource to clean up your property !Unless you are a bigtime developer or campaign contributor our council person would seem to have no interest in getting anything useful done ……but whats new? Why do you think she is running unopposed?She sucked the heart out of the neighborhood when she ignored the wishes of half her constituency during the Hysterical Historical District debacle….business as usual in RVA!
Buddy Corbett, Finally a post that rings true from you… I agree 100%
As mentioned as long as we have people who are all bark and no bite when it comes to making changes at City Hall, everything will remain the same.
A handful of people alone can not make a change unlike that which happened in another city where 200 people turned out to voice their opinions against their CAR. Try and find 200 people in the 7th District who are willing to make a change publicly. It is like everyone had just given up and rolled over.
As far as Bilder being secretive I believe it goes with his promise to keep us informed about plans and progress here on the forum and he has not done so and ignored emails as well.
Also, this could also reflect a sign of the times where Baby Boomers are retiring and the current generations are all about computers and not willing to participate in face-to-face public forums, roundtable discussions, or podium debates. If they can’t text it, email it, or post it then they don’t want anything to do with making a change. Too much of an inconvenience for them so hence the dismal turnouts at the voting polls as well. Politics have taken a back seat and people rather let things go “as is” rather than rock the boat to make changes.
Dumb Neighbor… are you sure the two lots sandwiched in between the corner lot and the Victorian house are set aside for some kind of parking? How is that zoned there? Seems like it would be for residential.
This was on the Agenda for this past Monday so what was the final outcome? Who attended?
“dumb neighbor” – Someone with an informed different point of view is obviously a shill? Thanks for proving my point.
Buddy – point well made on the dump and trash cans. Respectfully disagree on the trees. I might suggest that the heart of the neighborhood was torn out when dozens if not hundreds of neighborhood houses were turned into parking lots for suburbanites.
Do we really even want CAR anymore? While I’d love to see a group of informed, passionate and unbiased individuals looking out for our community, the reality is that’s not likely to be the case given that this is Richmond.
Since the developers can get free passes for them and their friends, maybe the best option is to explore dropping CAR. That way everyone has a level playing field and the average guy doesn’t have to go through all the red tape. Like everything else in Richmond, this body has turned into another way to give special treatment to some at the expense of others.
@28 – I agree with a lot of what you are saying but I also think some of this falls on the city too. Why does the process have to be so freaking difficult. I wanted to go Monday and complain about the Bilder appointment at the meeting but then saw that I needed to register in advance to be able to speak. The whole proceedings fell while I was out of town and because there wasn’t a lot of early notice, I had made plans to come back early and change my whole trip schedule.
It’s not 1930 anymore. People are busier than ever. But we do have tools that allow people to work more efficiently. Why can’t City Hall use some of these tools more efficiently. A decent website that list upcoming issues, accessible council members, posted plan for upcoming developments, etc. would all make it so more citizens could get involved. My guess is because the current system favors those who are well connected and know how to navigate the maze and that’s how city hall would like it. If we actually made the process user friendly, shit like this wouldn’t happen because people would be able to get involved.
I’m not a shill, nor do I really care who sits on CAR, but I will agree that Bilder’s green roof project in Carver is super cool and that Sterling Row makes for some attractive in-fill. Then again, I love Johannes work. I feel that in-fill should have a contemporary feeling, while fitting the mass and scale of the neighborhood. While I would have loved to see a theater in the theater, apartments and first floor commercial would sure beat the rotting structure that is currently there.
Bilder’s appointment to CAR was continued to July 23. Come and speak up if you are concerned about this appointment.
Alex – you do not have to call and sign up to speak in favor or opposition to a particular paper. You only have to sign up if you want to speak during the open citizen comment period.
Alex, a CAR of some kind are needed to make sure old and historic districts are protected. Problem is that the ideology of their purpose falls on deaf ears and those with blinders. People like Johannas and possibly Bilder DO HAVE their own agendas which counters the whole concept of what CAR is supposed to stand for. Problem is that if only “one” person goes to the meetings and signs up, how is anything going to be done against what is obviously wrong with the system?
Amy… you too miss the point that in Old & Historic Districts and our neighborhoods listed on the National Registry… are supposed to be protected which also includes making sure infills flow with what is already there. Not something so contemporary that it should be sitting in a strip mall. That tears the fabric of our heritage and history. But it is people like you who don’t give a shit about history and preservation apparently?
Anyone who would like to know exactly what Josh Bilder, and his architect Walter Parks, have proposed in their application for a Special Use Permit for the 25th Street Theater should come to the Church Hill Association meeting on July 17th. Mr. Bilder is scheduled to present his plan; and officials from the City Office of Land Use and Zoning will be there to explain their response.
Alex–you must have been a part of the Occupy movement. There are such things as looking up agendas and when meetings are held. There are things you can do yourself instead of having someone else do the work for you.
@36 – How would you rank order these three options in order of preference?
1. A committee that throws red tape in front of ordinary citizens trying to fix their houses but turns a blind eye when one of their own has a special project.
2. Everyone is allowed to do what they want to their house and people can make changes quickly.
3. A neutral committee is in place that independently reviews proposals and acts fairly regardless of how well connected someone is.
My preference would be 3, 2, 1. Since this is Richmond #3 is a pipe dream and there’s no chance of the well connected getting shut down. So my next preferred option would be to at least treat everyone else the same. If Johannas and Bilder can make whatever massive hulking monstrosity they want in our neighborhood, isn’t the most fair solution to allow the average homeowner the opportunity to do the same.
Yes, I’d like a real CAR but we’re not going to get one. So let’s be realistic and stop allowing the developers to use it as a tool to get preferential treatment while the rest of us have to jump through a bunch of hoops.
@38 – Ha! Anything but. But I do agree with them on a few things. It’s not our job to serve our elected officials, it’s their job to work for us. So why can’t they get with the times and try to give a shit about making it easier for their constituents to get involved? And is it so crazy to expect that our officials give everyone the same treatment?
I have a full time job (gots to make the money to pay the salaries of the clowns in City Hall…) and don’t have all kinds of time to watch what is going on or take off work so I can get down to City Hall and look at the plans in advance of the hearing to see what is coming up. If I had the time, I’d love to do this but in today’s busy world, not many of us have that luxury.
Let’s say I wanted to get involved and review each proposal for CAR in advance so I could decide when I should come and speak at the meeting. I don’t know what’s worth coming in for unless I can review the plans. The way the process is set up, I need to physically go to City Hall and look at them.
That requires me taking off about 3 hours of time each month to drive across town, find parking, go in and review the plans since I can only do that at their convenience. Unless I do that, I have no way to know what is shit and what is another business as usual proposal. Over the course of the year, assume I go to a couple meetings to protest bad designs. I’m looking at investing basically a week of vacation time to get involved. I care but it’s not THAT high on my list…
The process could be much streamlined. Instead, only folks with no jobs or whose jobs are tied to working the process can get involved. So we get two constituencies that city hall listens to: the unemployed looking for more handouts and services and the well connected who want preferential treatment. The rest of us get screwed because the process isn’t designed for us.
Most of the world has moved to tools that allow their stakeholders to easily track relevant information. I don’t think I’m a radical for expecting that the government employees do the same.
Eric – I don’t think it’s very nice to say that I “don’t give a shit about history and preservation apparently” when you’ve never met me. I live in a frame Victorian just outside the O&HD but in Church Hill (North, so maybe that’s not good enough for you). I don’t like strip mall or suburban architecture in places like CH, nor do I like some of the ugly copycat stuff that gets built. Because I don’t live in the O&H (I’m one block out), there’s are alot of ugly houses that try and look “historical” but just don’t work, near me. They lack the character of my house, yours, and lots od others. There are also the odd 1950s houses near the water tower and the suburban brick house just around the corner. I’d rather see CAR approving interesting creative projects that show what’s new and what’s old like the lofts on 25th. I love them, you hate them, but they would never happen at a strip mall or in Short Pump. I like Lava Lofts – I think it’s a great reuse of a rotting structure. I also think Beckstoffer’s is interesting, and so is Sterling Row. The McDonald’s apartments are hideous, but those ugly parking lots were more so. But hey, I like restaurants and density too. I don’t hate history actually – majored in it – but I’m not a fan of not-quite-right replicas. I think an edition should be clearly an edition, and that a body like CAR should look at that stuff.
Valerie.. the idea is that the plans be shown to the general public rather in the Times Dispatch, or the least Style Weekly and here on CHPN as they use to be posted. Elsewise they are very much a hidden agenda.
John, any way we can get you to post a copy of the plans from CAR?
I don’t post on here anymore, but in the interest of shedding some light on this murky CAR appointment, I will share the following:
Josh Bilder nominated himself. His name made it through the Land Use committee of City Council and through Organizational Development, that consists of the full Council…
BUT on July 9th Councilwoman Newbille asked to hold off on the appointment. She gave no reason, but Ida Jones (646-7931) who handles these issues for CC told a neighbor that several calls have come through in opposition to Mr. Bilder.
Although it is scheduled for a vote on Monday, Ms Jones expects it to be placed on hold, since they are going to advertise vacancies on CAR in the paper in August – to be more fair. They did not receive a list of three from the Association of Realtors, as described on the webpage. “It’s hard to get any names from them, although two people said Mr. Builder would be fine.”
Great information Laura, thanks for sharing. I guess we should keep the calls coming to Newbille. Maybe she’ll eventually help us get some structural changes to this committee to prevent others with conflicts of interest from being allowed to join.
From Richmond Bizsense:
“Bilder, who owns Bilder and Terranova Development, said he was happy to be appointed to the committee and that he had always been interested in the group’s work.
“The committee is tasked with preserving the history of Richmond, and that’s important to me,” Bilder said. “I’m going to take this job very seriously.”
Bilder has done work in Carver and Shockoe Bottom and is working on the renovation of the East End Theater in Church Hill.”