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Two more traffic circles proposed for the area
10/17/2009 6:42 AM by John M
nbc12 has details on traffic circles proposed for the intersections at 25th Street & Nine Mile and 23rd Street & Fairfield Avenue.
Yay! Both those intersections could use it!
I agree- esp. 25th and Nine,
I’ve been wishing for one at 25th and Nine Mile since I moved to the area three years back. I think another definite need is at Jefferson, Leigh and 22nd meet up right by the park and the Alamo. There’s plenty of space there for one too.
Also, I always thought it would be nice to place one at Jefferson, 21st, and Marshall. Mostly because it’s a scenic spot as you’re heading towards Shockoe Bottom on Jefferson, when the view of downtown first pops into view right next to the park. A circle with a statue and some greenery would look much better than that large, paved intersection and that cement pizza slice corner opposite the park. The only difficulty there right now is that a traffic circle might require that beautiful tree to come down.
By the way, I’ve been loving the circle at 25th and M. Even though it slows the speed of traffic, it speeds up the flow by getting rid of pointless waits at stop lights when there’s no other vehicles. And it looks good too.
@Stephen, that is a brilliant idea about Jefferson, Leigh, and 22nd! That light is one of the most annoying in Richmond and an attractive roundabout would be a dramatic improvement to the intersection. We’re going to put your idea on the agenda for the next Union Hill Civic Association meeting and will likely submit a request to DPW shortly thereafter.
…and then someone with more business acumen than me, perhaps Tracey, will turn “I’d rather be a restaurant” into the Roundabout Cafe.
Talk about an accident waiting to happen!
Please God, let this be true for 25th and Nine Mile.
Correction:
Jefferson, Clay, and 22nd
You know if there were just a way for people to have access to the interstate through at least one major artery there would be no need for traffic circles. I say, take the stop signs off Broad Street altogether! They’re a nuisance! How about the city takes the money for traffic circles and spends it on either widening Glenwood or putting sidewalks down so people don’t get hit trying to walk? We pay taxes down here too!
Am I the only one that absolutely hates the traffic “oblong” on 25th?
No Tiny, you are not. I’m no fan of it, either.
RE: #10 (putting sidewalks down so people don’t get hit trying to walk?), why is it in Union and Church Hills that people walk in the streets? I live in Union Hill and we have sidewalks, however, every time I drive down the street it’s like a video game of trying not to run over the idiots walking in the middle of the street. Obviously, spending money on sidewalks in this area did absolutely nothing with keeping people out of the street. The only time I am in the street when taking regular walks is when I’m crossing the street! Is it that difficult for others to do the same? I’m quite surprised that no one has been hit and/or killed doing this. It not only occurs in the daylight hours but throughout the night as well. This is dangerous behavior…
My only beef with the traffic circle at 25th and M is that people still don’t quite understand how it’s supposed to work. I’ve seen people slam their cars to a dead stop before entering an empty circle, or stop and wait for someone on the other side to go around before they enter.
It’s simple, people: yield to cars that are to your immediate left as you enter. If you can enter the circle without having to yield, you don’t have to stop or slow down (assuming you’re going the speed limit of 10 mph.)
I’m amazed there haven’t been more accidents.
Garry, when I’m a pedestrian, I love those stop signs on E. Broad. When I’m a driver, I’m only slightly annoyed. Unfortunately not everyone (like you) would stick with the 25mph speed limit along Broad (or Venable) and the citizens who live on those streets won their battle to get them installed.
I do agree with you that Glenwood Ave needs sidewalks, as does Cedar Street behind Jefferson Park. Folks have been bugging the city for years to build a sidewalk along Cedar down to Marshall. There seems to be some issues with engineering and we think the city is hoping new stairs in the park will make the Cedar hike less attractive.
SEW, yup, I’m annoyed by the folks too lazy to lift an ankle to step up onto/off of the side walk and have pondered this idiosyncratic behavior.
Here’s my theory: The people that walk in the street (mostly) don’t own cars. They simply can’t relate to folks behind the wheel and what it feels like to encounter a pedestrian walking in the middle of the street. They figure it’s our problem to stop/slow down for them.
Some of this behavior is slowly receding. Remember, up ’til a few years ago, there weren’t as many people living in Union Hill. Recently, we’ve had a population/car boom, and some of the old timers (and their younger relatives) are still adjusting.
Richmond City Council to consider roundabouts at four intersections (RTD 10/20/09)