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“Dear Goth Neighbors”
08/18/2011 11:22 AM by John M
Dear Goth Neighbors, Kindly refrain from destroying your house at 7:00 a.m. (again). Also, you left a few dozen PBR cans in the street. I don’t really recycle much, either, but you do have a selection of any of the six upturned supercans in the street by your house as well. Maybe you didn’t notice those.
As seen on Facebook 🙂
I think they meant punk
And I think they’re passive-aggressive goobers who would rather complain on facebook than go politely confront their neighbors and try to resolve this issue.
I’ve taken to calling the cops on my bad neighbors. It only takes one nice polite confrontation to turn ugly or violent to make shit real uncomfortable.
remember the good ol’ days when we only had drug deals and gun shots to complain about? also, is church hill turning into oregon hill?
You know, good ol’ days, I was going to say something nice in commiseration of the nuisance problem, but then you had to look down your snooty nose at my neighborhood. Maybe Church Hill needs to get over itself and join the the rest of City.
by “turning into oregon hill” i meant lots of houses rented to students who, because they are students, throw all of their beer cans on the street. who am i kidding…every neighborhood has this happening. oregon hill is actually pretty nice. there are just a lot of younger student-type folks there doing younger folks kinds of things. more than in church hill. don’t take it the wrong way. although i wouldn’t mind a best neighborhood in the world battle if you’re in the mood!
D bags- get a life. Clean up the beer cans and buysuck it up. Be glad it wasn’t gun shots at 7 am.
Wrong, bob. There are children under the age of 5 in several of the surrounding homes. They and their parents don’t have to put up with that foolishness, and lowering our expectations to somehow exhibit gratitude that “it wasn’t gunshots” is obsurd and offensive.
Union Hill is finally moving in the right direction – toward a place where real, live two parent families with children are willing to live. I was beginning to think there were covenants against them or something hidden in our deeds.
These obnoxious, entitled, trustafarian white kids on holiday from capitalism and reality are just as much a problem as their black counterparts, and I’m going to report both all day long and in equal measure.
It probably isn’t meant to, but that sounds really racist.
You’re right: Wasn’t meant to. I should have been more careful. It was intended to be the opposite. Neighbors seem so eager to report the black kids who hang out on the corner, drink beer, etc. – there’s no reason to not hold these white hoodlums to the same standard.
Dear Posters No. 2 and 7,
What if the Goths in question have previously responded violently to seven years of polite requests? What if the police can’t be permanently stationed in front of the property? What if one had seen contractors carry out needles from the property in question? What if the landlord only fixed problems when the city took them to court? What if one’s other neighbor’s babysitter was intimidated by drunk, mean, rowdy people with known violent tendencies throwing s* in the street at 7 am next door? What if there was a lot more background to a weary, funny, passive aggressive post randomly cut n pasted from fb?
Well said #11. Clarely you know of the house in question!
And stop riding your tiny, yet very noisy, mod-ed scooters up and down the street all night long! It sounds like a nest of PBR-drinking hornets over there sometimes at the corner of M and 23!
@11 You’re too generous in referring to the owner of the goth-punk-house(s) as a “landlord”. He’s way worse than that, he’s a SLUMLORD!
I’ve walked my dog down M Street in the Union Hill area plenty of times only to be disgusted by the filth of the recently arrived white suburbanite escapists. There’s trash, beer cans, clothing, busted up furniture, etc. usually thrown all about. The kids who live in these houses (and those now up near Venable & elsewhere) don’t give a shit about the neighborhood and are a blight. The only thing they care about is staying drunk, working at places like 821 Cafe (if at all), lousy music & pretending they “make a difference”.
Trust me, they aren’t “goth”. In their stupid heads they think they’re punk rock. In reality they’re as much of a benefit to our neighborhood as the block boys who sit out drinking 40s and hollering at one another, or the nitwits who hang out in front of the Wheeler or Clay Street Market.
One of the best things about our imperfect neighborhood in the vast diversity of people it contains. We have long time residents, grad students, young professionals who distain the blandness of suburbia, renters, blue collar folks, business owners, retirees, first time homebuyers. There isn’t really any other neighborhood like CH in RVA and the variance is refreshing all in all.
But I personally draw the line when it comes to people who obviously don’t give two shits about Church Hill. No one wants trash, noise, clutter, bad grafitti, or 8 folks drinking beer on the porch.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and there will be a massive sinkhole at Hadads Lake tomorrow during Drunk Friend Day and these nitwits will be swept into oblivion. It would also tidy up parts of Jackson Ward, the Fan & Oregon Hill. Or maybe these kids will all move back to NOVA or Midlothian to live in their parents basements where they belong. I can dream of a cleaner city, can’t I?
We can all dream of a cleaner and better city to live in. Reality is that it won’t happen soon. That’s a fact. Look around and give it the old eye ball test. Reality is what it is. Trash, noise, nonsense, etc. Will continue. I like to think positive but some sense of reality sets in. I clean my block daily, mow w
The whole block weekly because noone else does anything. My house looks great but the rest don’t care. At some point you have to smell reality and stop wishing that your block neighbors care about the same values. When other people and your neighborhood don’t align with your values its hard to continue living here. Best of luck. I personally see reality over dreams with this particular block of church hill.
If you didn’t notice, this is a city. Your going to see people drinking, trash on the streets, and its definitely going to be noisy. You really cant complain about someone driving a moped down “your” block, once again this is a city, people drive mopeds. If your so terrified of every person not wearing a polo you need to move to the suburbs
It’s not that people drink, it’s that they do it in the street and then throw the trash on the ground (blatantly avoiding any trash can). And it’s not that they drive mopeds, it’s that they do it at 2 or 3 AM. Every. single. night. I’m not terrified of every person not wearing a polo (although I myself am often found wearing one) I am terrified (and pissed off) with douchebag neighbors that, as people have stated above, don’t actually want to give back to their community. You don’t have to plant trees and mentor at risk youth to give back to your community (although that is awesome), you can simply pick up after yourself and respect your property and the city and neighborhood that you live in by being a good neighbor. Can we all agree on that?
Well said Observer, well said.
Ditto East End Gal!
Observer..VERY well said!
@ 18 19 20… Well put – I agree with you guys! Sometimes we get on the forums here of chpn and spout off (like I did in my last post), but I think one thing that should unite us is agreeing about being good neighbors. CH is a GREAT place. It can it better in the context of people caring and acting that way…
@17 – if you didn’t notice, this is a city filled with respectable and mature adults. It’s not a trailer park. Grow up, take responsibility for your actions and show consideration for your neighbors. If you can’t, you need to move to a trailer park where you can throw your shit all around and get as drunk and loud as you want. Cities do not have to be filthy and overly loud. They are only that way when people are rude and don’t take care of themselves.
I will agree that complaining about vehicles driving around is probably a bit over sensitive though…
i cant wait to ride my moped around there again at 230am for 3 hrs up and down the block….dont be a puss…the guy that owns those houses is a slumlord..he doesnt give a crap as long as he gets some money…if you cant take the dirty city life sometimes move the f#*k to the west end!!
id rather here mopeds then gun shots..beer cans then bullet shells! But still littering is stupid!