Why disguise this as a health safety issue? There are countless animals and birds everywhere that are eliminating in the environment. Dogs are not going to pose a significant risk to the water supply. Granted, nobody wants to see dog waste everywhere and folks should clean up after their dogs but this argument is ridiculous!
Yes, this has been a city ordinance and fines given of $250. if reported. I wonder if ‘citizen’s arrests” apply here? But seriously, I doubt that the river and water ways were a concern when this was placed on the books. More of courtesy and keeping the city clean, like littering.
You can be ticketed and fined for jaywalking (not crossing at a posted intersection) but people do it all the time and I have yet to see anyone being ticketed.
You are not to park a vehicle within 25-feet of a corner intersection which obstructs view of the road for cars at the intersection going through it.
It isn’t like the days where we had specific people on the force that did nothing but think kind of work and understand that there are only like 7 police to cover many square miles from Church Hill to the Boulevard area? Ridiculous. No wonder crime is so high!
Greater threat to James: nutrients
Unlike oil spill, other pollutants lack ‘Kodak moment,’ experts say
BY REX SPRINGSTON
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER Nov 30, 2005
It’s easy to get mad about a petroleum spill in the James River. But if you are
really concerned about the state of the James, take a look at yourself and your
neighbors.
The river is primarily troubled by unseen pollutants from suburban fertilizers,
farm manure and sewage-treatment plants, among other sources.
On the list of James River problems, petroleum spills are “not very high,” said
Gerard Seeley Jr., director of the state Department of Environmental Quality’s
Richmond-area region.
These spills typically are serious for a short time, but after the oil is
cleaned up or naturally dissipates, “everything usually goes back to normal.”
By contrast, nutrients such as nitrogen, from human and animal waste and
fertilizers, cause continual problems for the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal
tributaries, including the entire James below downtown Richmond.
These nutrients aid the growth of algae that suck up oxygen that fish and
shellfish need.
“The James River is dying a slow, chronic death” from nutrient pollution, said
Jeff Corbin, a staff scientist and deputy Virginia director of the Chesapeake
Bay Foundation, an environmental group.
Petroleum spills produce dramatic pictures that excite the public, Corbin said.
Oxygen-poor water, disappearing oysters and dying river grasses do not.
“There is no Kodak moment to show people the dire straits the James River is
in,” Corbin said.
No, the city will not be able to enforce this any more than they can/do leash laws, rabies vaccines, etc. Regardless, pick up the poo. Poo is disgusting and so are you, if you don’t clean up after your pet.
Poop has been around since dogs have been in the city. How about horses before cars? I can’t see how it can be such an impact here and not elsewhere? In any event, pick it up! If I see you not in front of our house it will be reported. Fortunately almost everyone that does has especially the dog walkers from Pets at Play. Way to go!
To me, the corner parking is more of an issue since I have to pull out half way into the intersection to see around cars. That is dangerous.
Wow, sad to see so many people living so close to the James River taking such attitudes toward this, its simple, just do it. I don’t think anyone is saying this will single handidly clean up the river, and its not about the city enforcing something, its about people taking small steps on their own which when you add them all up can have a small but important impact on our water quality. I just looked up some rough statistics that our city’s population of dogs produce about 13 MILLION pounds of dog poop a year, if someone came in with a massive line of dump trucks and proposed to dump 13,000,000 lbs of dog poop in the river we would be outrage, but that is nearly what we are doing through individual inaction.
Hey, Louise – would you be available to dig the dog poop out of the soles of my shoes either before I go to work or after I cut my grass? How about cleaning my car’s floor mats when it gets on them from said shoe soles?
#12, Well, sure not all of it will make it in the river, but some of it will, along with the lepto, giardia, coccidia, hookworms etc that dogs frequently carry. Sure, raccoons carry all that too. But I dont watch raccoons take a shit on my neighbors yard 3 feet from me.
Its common courtesy.
People have let their dogs poop in my yard and not picked it up and every single time I’m around to see it, I bag their dog crap up and bring it to them, telling them they forgot it in my yard. Its never the same person twice, so I think the public shaming is definitely the way to go.
Oh if only it were different folks each time in my yard. Repeatedly, my neighbor allows their dog to deposit their precious poo in roughly the same spot in the tree well that I maintain in front of my house. So like Magpie, when I get out of my car I can place my shoe in said preciousness.
This is at least something that is a VERY easy fix. Pick up your dogs deposits. It does help the environment and the overall cleanliness of the neighborhood. Even better it keeps the flies from coming in swarms and spreading germs on your picnic lunch in your backyard.
Leaving your dog’s droppings lying on the ground where she deposited them is the equivalent of leaving a great, big poo in someone else’s toilet and not flushing. Your dog’s poop stuck to the bottom of someone else’s shoe is just as gross as leaving some poor person somewhere to flush after you.
The bottom line is that people need to pick up the crap and dispose of it properly. You all are uneducated when it comes to this issue. The crap carries bacteria and it goes to the river. EPA has done several studies on this. I am installing a camera on East Franklin St to report the bastards that continue to allow their nasty dogs to take a crap in my yard…. $250 is enough to make people stop… Nasty Pigs…
I have lived in Church Hill since June and have had to clean crap out of shoes countless times. It’s gross! Kids play in the park and people walk in the grass. Picking up after your dog is part of being a responsible owner.
Hmm, blame dog poo when the city is dumping sewage overflow into the river. Makes sense.
Why disguise this as a health safety issue? There are countless animals and birds everywhere that are eliminating in the environment. Dogs are not going to pose a significant risk to the water supply. Granted, nobody wants to see dog waste everywhere and folks should clean up after their dogs but this argument is ridiculous!
Yes, this has been a city ordinance and fines given of $250. if reported. I wonder if ‘citizen’s arrests” apply here? But seriously, I doubt that the river and water ways were a concern when this was placed on the books. More of courtesy and keeping the city clean, like littering.
You can be ticketed and fined for jaywalking (not crossing at a posted intersection) but people do it all the time and I have yet to see anyone being ticketed.
You are not to park a vehicle within 25-feet of a corner intersection which obstructs view of the road for cars at the intersection going through it.
It isn’t like the days where we had specific people on the force that did nothing but think kind of work and understand that there are only like 7 police to cover many square miles from Church Hill to the Boulevard area? Ridiculous. No wonder crime is so high!
The city won’t even enforce the leash law, so I’m expected to believe this will be enforced?
Animals poop outside! Get. Over. It.
Yes. Animals poop outside but if they are your pet do the right thing: Get. Over. It. and. Pick. It. Up!
Here is a link to a primer on pet waste impacts on water quality. Yes it’s an issue.
http://www.stormwatercenter.net/Pollution_Prevention_Factsheets/AnimalWasteColle\
ction.htm
Greater threat to James: nutrients
Unlike oil spill, other pollutants lack ‘Kodak moment,’ experts say
BY REX SPRINGSTON
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER Nov 30, 2005
It’s easy to get mad about a petroleum spill in the James River. But if you are
really concerned about the state of the James, take a look at yourself and your
neighbors.
The river is primarily troubled by unseen pollutants from suburban fertilizers,
farm manure and sewage-treatment plants, among other sources.
On the list of James River problems, petroleum spills are “not very high,” said
Gerard Seeley Jr., director of the state Department of Environmental Quality’s
Richmond-area region.
These spills typically are serious for a short time, but after the oil is
cleaned up or naturally dissipates, “everything usually goes back to normal.”
By contrast, nutrients such as nitrogen, from human and animal waste and
fertilizers, cause continual problems for the Chesapeake Bay and its tidal
tributaries, including the entire James below downtown Richmond.
These nutrients aid the growth of algae that suck up oxygen that fish and
shellfish need.
“The James River is dying a slow, chronic death” from nutrient pollution, said
Jeff Corbin, a staff scientist and deputy Virginia director of the Chesapeake
Bay Foundation, an environmental group.
Petroleum spills produce dramatic pictures that excite the public, Corbin said.
Oxygen-poor water, disappearing oysters and dying river grasses do not.
“There is no Kodak moment to show people the dire straits the James River is
in,” Corbin said.
No, the city will not be able to enforce this any more than they can/do leash laws, rabies vaccines, etc. Regardless, pick up the poo. Poo is disgusting and so are you, if you don’t clean up after your pet.
Thank you Lucky Canine!
Poop has been around since dogs have been in the city. How about horses before cars? I can’t see how it can be such an impact here and not elsewhere? In any event, pick it up! If I see you not in front of our house it will be reported. Fortunately almost everyone that does has especially the dog walkers from Pets at Play. Way to go!
To me, the corner parking is more of an issue since I have to pull out half way into the intersection to see around cars. That is dangerous.
Wow, sad to see so many people living so close to the James River taking such attitudes toward this, its simple, just do it. I don’t think anyone is saying this will single handidly clean up the river, and its not about the city enforcing something, its about people taking small steps on their own which when you add them all up can have a small but important impact on our water quality. I just looked up some rough statistics that our city’s population of dogs produce about 13 MILLION pounds of dog poop a year, if someone came in with a massive line of dump trucks and proposed to dump 13,000,000 lbs of dog poop in the river we would be outrage, but that is nearly what we are doing through individual inaction.
Hey, Louise – would you be available to dig the dog poop out of the soles of my shoes either before I go to work or after I cut my grass? How about cleaning my car’s floor mats when it gets on them from said shoe soles?
@10…those #s are quite a stretch… and all of it will never…ever make it to the river…
#12, Well, sure not all of it will make it in the river, but some of it will, along with the lepto, giardia, coccidia, hookworms etc that dogs frequently carry. Sure, raccoons carry all that too. But I dont watch raccoons take a shit on my neighbors yard 3 feet from me.
Its common courtesy.
People have let their dogs poop in my yard and not picked it up and every single time I’m around to see it, I bag their dog crap up and bring it to them, telling them they forgot it in my yard. Its never the same person twice, so I think the public shaming is definitely the way to go.
Oh if only it were different folks each time in my yard. Repeatedly, my neighbor allows their dog to deposit their precious poo in roughly the same spot in the tree well that I maintain in front of my house. So like Magpie, when I get out of my car I can place my shoe in said preciousness.
This is at least something that is a VERY easy fix. Pick up your dogs deposits. It does help the environment and the overall cleanliness of the neighborhood. Even better it keeps the flies from coming in swarms and spreading germs on your picnic lunch in your backyard.
Leaving your dog’s droppings lying on the ground where she deposited them is the equivalent of leaving a great, big poo in someone else’s toilet and not flushing. Your dog’s poop stuck to the bottom of someone else’s shoe is just as gross as leaving some poor person somewhere to flush after you.
Please, just pick up after your dog.
The bottom line is that people need to pick up the crap and dispose of it properly. You all are uneducated when it comes to this issue. The crap carries bacteria and it goes to the river. EPA has done several studies on this. I am installing a camera on East Franklin St to report the bastards that continue to allow their nasty dogs to take a crap in my yard…. $250 is enough to make people stop… Nasty Pigs…
What Lora said! Open carry poop bags ARE permitted in RVA!
I have lived in Church Hill since June and have had to clean crap out of shoes countless times. It’s gross! Kids play in the park and people walk in the grass. Picking up after your dog is part of being a responsible owner.