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Stoney vs Morrissey
10/23/2016 4:58 PM by John M
Got these two pieces of mail over the weekend, both about mayoral candidate Joe Morrissey. Top paid for and authorized by Elect Joe Morrissey, bottom aid for and authorized by Stoney for RVA.
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I’m still in favor of Jon Baliles. And Stoney really blew his own campaign, in my mind, by admitting that he’s been involved secretly in the ballpark plans all year. That’s more business as usual just like the current administration.
I also received both in the mail. The anti-Morrissey flyer was really aggravating: why can’t Stoney’s ad tell us what he’s actually going to _do_, not what’s wrong with the other candidate.
(PS: ‘indicted’ doesn’t mean ‘convicted’)
Next we’ll hear “that was a PAC that I have nothing to do with, I don’t know anything about that ad . . . “
Where does it say in the one about Morrissey taking bribes that it was sent by Stoney?
Ray – on the top part with my address that wasn’t scanned
Yes please rescan with the “paid for and authorized by..”
@1 i agree, the secret ballpark negotiations does not look good. It makes me wonder what stoney got out of it. At least with berry you know what you are expecting.
Secret ballpark negotiations? The guy brought VCU and the Squirrels together to start the planning process. The MOU is the start of the process. No one had done that before because the mayor and his lackey Berry prevented any alternatives to the Shockoe stadium from being discussed.
A vote for Baliles at this point helps Morrissey become mayor. If that’s what you want, just say you support Morrissey for mayor, because Jon does not have a chance.
@7 exactly how does a vote for Baliles support Morrisey? I’ve heard that said on here several times now, but I don’t get it. Please explain, thanks.
@7 – yes, secret negotiations. It wasn’t transparent, involved a mayoral candidate working backroom deals, indicates that the city will be coughing up money (with a new administration potentially holding the bag), talks about regional participation (i.e. $$) but no officials from the surrounding counties were consulted. I’d say that pretty much qualifies as secret.
@crd – The thinking is this:
As it stands according to the polls, Morrissey has the votes to win the election outright by winning in 5 districts. There is a large enough set of undecided voters, though, to pull a few of these districts away from Morrissey – if the undecided voters back a candidate who has an actual chance of winning that district. This would force a runoff between the top 2 vote getters.
If you are not a Morrissey supporter, there are two ways to look at this . Either you’re voting to help someone get into 2nd place overall and hoping that another district flips to force the runoff, or you can vote strategically towards flipping your district.
So how does a vote for Baliles help Morrissey?
1) Baliles is terribly unlikely to be the 2nd place candidate if a runoff happens. He’s a “not close” 3rd place in the 1st and 2nd districts, and farther behind in the rest.
2) Stoney has a chance to be competitive with Morrissey here in the 7th District. The Democratic endorsement and structural support that brings should mean something. Up here, a vote for Baliles or Berry is a vote to give the district to Morrissey.
Voting for Baliles is essentially a throwaway vote, like voting for Mosby, or yourself. It does nothing to change the basic dynamic, which is that Morrissey wins outright – unless something changes.
And believe me – I like Jon. He was my choice of candidates going into this.
POLL: http://chpn.net/2016/10/15/new-mayoral-poll-shows-a-three-man-race-with-13-of-richmond-undecided/
According to the latest polls that John posted Morrissey is winning in 5 districts which would get him the mayorship. If you don’t want a Morrissey mayor because of indictments and underage affairs, etc. then the best thing we can do in District 7 is vote for Stoney who would then take one of his districts and force a runoff between Morrissey and whomever comes in second (only Stoney and Berry have a chance at this, but we have to knock him out of one district to force the runoff). At this point the other candidates have ABSOLUTELY no chance of winning in any given scenario minus an apocalypse where everyone else dies and we would be under martial law. The other candidates are doing an absolute disservice to the city by even staying in the election and not endorsing either Stoney, Berry, or Morrissey if they so choose.
@9 a press release that VCU and the baseball team are looking for a site is not opacity, especially when their search is consistent with the largest public engagement effort, especially in terms of public participation, that the city has ever seen. How many private citizens participated? 6,000.
“And yet Mr Morrissey remains the man most likely to win. Polls show him pulling over 20%—not a lot, but his strength is magnified in a crowded field in which the weakest candidates refuse to drop out.”
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2016/10/anti-establishment-joe?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/
@9 yes, on point sir! @7 Levar got caught with a transparency issue and rightfully criticized for it. Because of people like you Joe does not even have to do squat, because you are actually helping to tear the anti morrisey community apart. At least murden has the decency of a logical response. Oh by the way, if you want a stadium, vote for berry because at least the has the experience for that.
at 13 you ref the economist
is this on line only, not in my paper edition
@bill – I’m not sure. Seemed to show up online yesterday.
OUCH!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/the-campaign-that-may-be-a-losing-bet-for-virginias-governor-no-not-hillary/2016/10/24/d01b5c4c-9624-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?wpisrc=nl_va&wpmm=1?
A lesson little Levar didn’t bother to learn from his mentor/benefactor: (from WP article)
Asked about Morrissey, the governor (McAuliffe) said, “I am for Levar Stoney. I don’t attack Democrats.”
FWIW, Morrissey hasn’t been a Democrat since 2014.
@ 19 John M
Take a look at his mailer that you scanned, above his photo…clearly states/proclaims that he is (still?) a Democrat. Also, the text reads: “I fought for Democratic Party principles…”
Dunno… He left the party when the Democrats wouldn’t let him run in the primary for State Senate a few years back. All of the online candidate info sources have him as an Independent.
Who is the Master of the Universe that determines whether or not someone is a Democrat (or Republican for the matter)?
Is it Mr. Minor, the local Chairman of the Richmond Club for Democrats?
Washington Post has picked up on Stoney:https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/the-campaign-that-may-be-a-losing-bet-for-virginias-governor-no-not-hillary/2016/10/24/d01b5c4c-9624-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_vamayor-1145am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
@17 I just saw your post about the Wash Post. JIMMY BUFFET’s guy gave to Stoney? Gimme a break.
@22 Yes to a certain extent, but that’s if you want to belong to the city committee. The state level designation came because someone played with the paperwork and declared him not eligible for the Dem ticket for a state senate seat, so he turned around and ran as an Independent then pulled out for medical reasons (Roslyn Dance won the seat against McQuinn). You are not required to declare affiliation for a seat in local elections.
@24 So is it Mr. Minor who decides whether you get to belong to the Democratic Club in Richmond?