It’s just terrifying trying to raise children in a community where access to organic avocados is sporadic, at best, and the fluctuation in pricing capricious.
As the person who added the avocado option to the poll only to come back several hours later and find this is now “a thing,” I just want to say I love this neighborhood.
Y’all are pissing me off. I’m all for a good joke and I can buck the freaking establishment with the best BUT Dr. Newbille, who has received much criticism for not being connected to the problems on the street level of our community, is asking for our input in preparation for a meeting with the Mayor and some of y’all are fucking jerks. Organic avocados?? It’s not even funny; it’s grossly ignorant. Kids are dying in the East End. Three people were shot in Shockoe Bottom last night and one of them died today. Drugs are rampant. Crime and unemployment are high. City resources are scarce. We can’t get care for our schools, kids, parks, pets, streets, sidewalks or elderly. It’s fine to be sarcastic and silly but not when someone is finally paying attention to the very real and very critical problems here in the East End.
Maybe Newbille should get out and walk the neighborhoods if she’s serious about knowing her district. A survey such as this has very little credibility and no statistical confidence.
Our greatest concern is the operating drug house on Venable street. It goes early to late every day, The police pass with no concern. It has been documented by a resident to no avail.
I love the avocado joke but it highlights how stupid this poll is. Didn’t we just have an election that was suppose to highlight the issues of our area. How can Newbille be on council on this time and still now know what the issues are, oh that’s right, she doesn’t return calls or emails form the constitutes, that’s why she doesn’t know what our issues are.
Hi Kathleen. While I truly appreciate your enthusiasm, your post defines why Dr. Newbille’s attempt to gain information is worthy of the avocados joke and many more. Your words defining Councilwoman Cynthia Newbille were as someone who is “finally paying attention to the very real and very critical problems here in the East End.” The problem is that Dr. Newbille has been in her elected position for a long, long time – she should already know what are the concerns of the community and should already have in place written plans to deal with those concerns. She does not.
Dr.Newbille’s effort is for show only because, as Juanito has recognized,”A survey such as this has very little credibility and no statistical confidence.” Especially since it is only on Facebook so Timothy and a whole lot of folks in the East End can’t participate.
I appreciate your enthusiasm because you are right that we must get serious about the many issues facing our East End community. You are also right that the citizens of our community need to finally recognize their civic responsibility to be regularly involved. Unfortunately, Dr. Newbille’s effort is just a publicity stunt ahead of the Mayor’s meeting on Thursday and will not lead to anything productive, hence the jokes.
My top concern is getting someone to actually do something about the DRUG DEALING that goes on EVERYDAY right ACCOSS from the POLICE STATION on street on 25th.
I mean is this seriously a joke?!?! Someone please give me a solid answer of why this is still able to go on. I SAW TWO deals go down today while I was sitting at the light, IN FRONT OF THE POLICE STATION.
This is MY TOP CONCERN. And yes, the CAPS in necessary.
FYI Juanito, there’s no statistical test for evaluating the validity of a survey’s results. Facebook is a medium that’s theoretically used by the overwhelming majority of Newbille’s constituents, so the random sample that responded could very well represent the broader population (i.e. everyone in her district). What proof do you have to say it doesn’t?
That said, I agree with others who have made the point that a politician shouldn’t need a survey, however simple or complex, to find out what’s at the top of the community’s mind. Newbille should know these things already and should be spending her cognitive efforts on developing solutions and securing buy-in from her peers.
For as long as Ms. Newbille has been our representative, she should have no need to do a survey to see what our concerns are. She should KNOW what they are and should be actively pursuing plans to address them.
Maybe your right, our community should be okay with concentrated drug dealing right across from the police station.
As if drugs weren’t the root of MOST of the serious crimes in the community…
But hey most people don’t care about it unless they see it right in front of their face, OR maybe many are okay with it because of the concentration right INFRONT of the police station?
To answer your question: I think drug dealing should be dealt with no matter where its taking place. BUT, it should be easier to deal with, in a concentrated area, right across from the police station. Also, if police don’t care if its going on right outside their windows, why in the heck would they care if its going on in other parts of the community?
@15,
Whining about Dr Newbille is also a way of doing nothing productive.
It’s worth noting that ALL politics has a bit of performance in it, including a candidate announcing that they have torn down a developer’s sign in the hopes that the voters will vote for them.
I have to agree with Kathleen. Take it seriously and answer the question. Maybe even advance the conversation. I don’t think that solving cultural problems is on government exclusively. It’s on all of us.
If a big underlying problem is the drug addiction to public safety continuum, I’ve got to ask y’all to push through to the part where practical solutions get suggested, and maybe organized around.
@Daniel – in fairness to the police, I would hope that at any given time most of the officers are out and about doing any number of things in the community, rather than sitting in the police station. Maybe that corner is a magnet for drug deals (and I’ve seen a lot of other shady shit there as well) because that’s where the officers are actually the least likely to spend any time policing? It’s counterintuitive, but…?
I agree with Lee @24, the officers are most likely out in the area. HOWEVER, if all of you who have mentioned this are sure there is drug dealing going on, and you’ve seen it, then why have you not called the police as you drove or walked past the drug dealing? What is the point of complaining here, when you’ve personally witnessed it and not called it in? Sorry but that doesn’t make sense to me. I see something going on, I call it in – maybe not from right there but a block or two away.
You always seem to make false assumptions quickly, like for example bogusly assuming I’ve never called the police about drug dealing and things around the hill.
But to make it clear with “your fake” news I am an avid police caller and reporter. And just for a side example- I have probably called the non emergency police about the illegal parking between mosby between 4-6 in the right lane probably 15 times in the last month. In fact they probably have me on a “do not listen to this guy list”. But still, every day of the week I drive By MLK its not being unforced.
I’m really confused why you are confusing yourself with your false assumptions. In the future it would be nice and could save you some breathe if you ask questions first.
@Lee I understand that police are out and about, but come on, we are common citizens, do you think the police and detectives are oblivious to what is going on there? If, so that’s scary. If not, Why is it not being handled when chief Durham has said this is one of the main proablems plaguig the community ?
Daniel-Drug dealing goes on right across from the police station all the time. It has been going on for years. And, that is not the only place in Church Hill it is going on. Apparently the “powers that be” don’t want it to stop or they would do something about it. Calling the police about drug dealing is useless. It is very frustrating when the very people that should be putting a stop to it look the other way.
@29
I’ve found that it matters what information I’m able to give. License plate numbers, full descriptions, or better yet names (either street or birth certificate names) and or pictures really help in getting response. I’ve learned to help, not only to ask for help.
Coupling calling in with taking meetings with police leaders has resulted (over time) in major police actions and excellent changes re drug dealing near my home. I’ve also learned to use tip lines to log information into the system.
And fwiw, they know about the drug dealing @ 25 and Q.
Is that drug dealing a priority for you? If so, convince them to shut it down. I would suggest more honey than vinegar.
Personally, for me the drug dealing @ Oakwood and Q is a bigger issue, as is the dealing just behind Chimborazo Elementary school. The first because it is near my home, and the second because kids and school should equal no open air drug markets. And the RPD is pulled in 100 directions, because too many of us are addicts. And that’s a dedicated and, well, implacable force which the police department will not be able to stop on its own. The slow it down, often pull its fangs, force it underground, and move it from here to there. All important things that matter, but I think the actual problem is (our level of) addiction.
What do we do about that?
All those people that hang out at the Clay Street Market used to hang out right by my house. They moved along because we called the police all the time on them. I talked about it at every community meeting, on CHPN, filed complaints with ABC, and talked directly to the police every chance I got. I was bitchy and annoying and I didn’t care. The drunks, dealers and pan handlers got tired of being harassed, a couple of them went to jail, and then the final nail in this particular coffin – the Blue Wheeler closed. Clay Street is a little more difficult because the building is owned by the guys that run that market. Still, time is on your side. Call the police every time you see them. They can’t block the sidewalk with their chairs – impeding the right of way. They can’t consume alcohol in public or within 50 feet of the place where they bought it. Use the fact that there’s a school right there – why doesn’t Chimborazo Elementary raise hell about this? Little by little you can chip away at this and they will move on.
I’m with Kathleen , call the police and let them know everything you know. I have done this in my part of the hood and they have been there day or night. It’s working. You will not get support from the churches or fellowships in our community . They love to quote, “they’re poor people” like poor people can’t have morals or values. To busy lifting theirselfs up for praise and glory. Ms Dewbille has been there as well. Again a big shout out to our police.
Lillie A. Estes – makes me think of our CJFS and the definition of public safety.
Elaborate more…
Just documenting this for posterity
Avocados
Isn’t the mayor supposed to hold office hours at Powhatan Rec. Center this Thursday evening? Or did I imagine that?
And I definitely have an issue with the avocados. Thanks John!
YEP: https://chpn.net/2017/05/30/levar-stoney-wants-to-hang-out/
It’s just terrifying trying to raise children in a community where access to organic avocados is sporadic, at best, and the fluctuation in pricing capricious.
As the person who added the avocado option to the poll only to come back several hours later and find this is now “a thing,” I just want to say I love this neighborhood.
Lack of a reasonably priced monocle repair shoppe.
Y’all are pissing me off. I’m all for a good joke and I can buck the freaking establishment with the best BUT Dr. Newbille, who has received much criticism for not being connected to the problems on the street level of our community, is asking for our input in preparation for a meeting with the Mayor and some of y’all are fucking jerks. Organic avocados?? It’s not even funny; it’s grossly ignorant. Kids are dying in the East End. Three people were shot in Shockoe Bottom last night and one of them died today. Drugs are rampant. Crime and unemployment are high. City resources are scarce. We can’t get care for our schools, kids, parks, pets, streets, sidewalks or elderly. It’s fine to be sarcastic and silly but not when someone is finally paying attention to the very real and very critical problems here in the East End.
Maybe Newbille should get out and walk the neighborhoods if she’s serious about knowing her district. A survey such as this has very little credibility and no statistical confidence.
Our greatest concern is the operating drug house on Venable street. It goes early to late every day, The police pass with no concern. It has been documented by a resident to no avail.
I guess since I’m not on Facebook I can’t contribute to this poll?
I love the avocado joke but it highlights how stupid this poll is. Didn’t we just have an election that was suppose to highlight the issues of our area. How can Newbille be on council on this time and still now know what the issues are, oh that’s right, she doesn’t return calls or emails form the constitutes, that’s why she doesn’t know what our issues are.
Hi Kathleen. While I truly appreciate your enthusiasm, your post defines why Dr. Newbille’s attempt to gain information is worthy of the avocados joke and many more. Your words defining Councilwoman Cynthia Newbille were as someone who is “finally paying attention to the very real and very critical problems here in the East End.” The problem is that Dr. Newbille has been in her elected position for a long, long time – she should already know what are the concerns of the community and should already have in place written plans to deal with those concerns. She does not.
Dr.Newbille’s effort is for show only because, as Juanito has recognized,”A survey such as this has very little credibility and no statistical confidence.” Especially since it is only on Facebook so Timothy and a whole lot of folks in the East End can’t participate.
I appreciate your enthusiasm because you are right that we must get serious about the many issues facing our East End community. You are also right that the citizens of our community need to finally recognize their civic responsibility to be regularly involved. Unfortunately, Dr. Newbille’s effort is just a publicity stunt ahead of the Mayor’s meeting on Thursday and will not lead to anything productive, hence the jokes.
My top concern is getting someone to actually do something about the DRUG DEALING that goes on EVERYDAY right ACCOSS from the POLICE STATION on street on 25th.
I mean is this seriously a joke?!?! Someone please give me a solid answer of why this is still able to go on. I SAW TWO deals go down today while I was sitting at the light, IN FRONT OF THE POLICE STATION.
This is MY TOP CONCERN. And yes, the CAPS in necessary.
Sad but true, Rick Tatnall, sad but true.
Daniel: do you think, from a policing point of view, that having it concentrated across from the Precinct or scattered all over the Hill?
Daniel: do you think, from a policing point of view, that having it concentrated across from the Precinct or scattered all over the Hill is better?
FYI Juanito, there’s no statistical test for evaluating the validity of a survey’s results. Facebook is a medium that’s theoretically used by the overwhelming majority of Newbille’s constituents, so the random sample that responded could very well represent the broader population (i.e. everyone in her district). What proof do you have to say it doesn’t?
That said, I agree with others who have made the point that a politician shouldn’t need a survey, however simple or complex, to find out what’s at the top of the community’s mind. Newbille should know these things already and should be spending her cognitive efforts on developing solutions and securing buy-in from her peers.
For as long as Ms. Newbille has been our representative, she should have no need to do a survey to see what our concerns are. She should KNOW what they are and should be actively pursuing plans to address them.
@Juanito
Maybe your right, our community should be okay with concentrated drug dealing right across from the police station.
As if drugs weren’t the root of MOST of the serious crimes in the community…
But hey most people don’t care about it unless they see it right in front of their face, OR maybe many are okay with it because of the concentration right INFRONT of the police station?
To answer your question: I think drug dealing should be dealt with no matter where its taking place. BUT, it should be easier to deal with, in a concentrated area, right across from the police station. Also, if police don’t care if its going on right outside their windows, why in the heck would they care if its going on in other parts of the community?
@15,
Whining about Dr Newbille is also a way of doing nothing productive.
It’s worth noting that ALL politics has a bit of performance in it, including a candidate announcing that they have torn down a developer’s sign in the hopes that the voters will vote for them.
I have to agree with Kathleen. Take it seriously and answer the question. Maybe even advance the conversation. I don’t think that solving cultural problems is on government exclusively. It’s on all of us.
If a big underlying problem is the drug addiction to public safety continuum, I’ve got to ask y’all to push through to the part where practical solutions get suggested, and maybe organized around.
@Daniel – in fairness to the police, I would hope that at any given time most of the officers are out and about doing any number of things in the community, rather than sitting in the police station. Maybe that corner is a magnet for drug deals (and I’ve seen a lot of other shady shit there as well) because that’s where the officers are actually the least likely to spend any time policing? It’s counterintuitive, but…?
I agree with Lee @24, the officers are most likely out in the area. HOWEVER, if all of you who have mentioned this are sure there is drug dealing going on, and you’ve seen it, then why have you not called the police as you drove or walked past the drug dealing? What is the point of complaining here, when you’ve personally witnessed it and not called it in? Sorry but that doesn’t make sense to me. I see something going on, I call it in – maybe not from right there but a block or two away.
Good luck getting any attention from Newbille.
Perhaps Sam (her assistant) might be more helpful.
@25 true
@Crd
You always seem to make false assumptions quickly, like for example bogusly assuming I’ve never called the police about drug dealing and things around the hill.
But to make it clear with “your fake” news I am an avid police caller and reporter. And just for a side example- I have probably called the non emergency police about the illegal parking between mosby between 4-6 in the right lane probably 15 times in the last month. In fact they probably have me on a “do not listen to this guy list”. But still, every day of the week I drive By MLK its not being unforced.
I’m really confused why you are confusing yourself with your false assumptions. In the future it would be nice and could save you some breathe if you ask questions first.
@Lee I understand that police are out and about, but come on, we are common citizens, do you think the police and detectives are oblivious to what is going on there? If, so that’s scary. If not, Why is it not being handled when chief Durham has said this is one of the main proablems plaguig the community ?
Daniel-Drug dealing goes on right across from the police station all the time. It has been going on for years. And, that is not the only place in Church Hill it is going on. Apparently the “powers that be” don’t want it to stop or they would do something about it. Calling the police about drug dealing is useless. It is very frustrating when the very people that should be putting a stop to it look the other way.
My top concern: Violence related to drug dealing.
@29
I’ve found that it matters what information I’m able to give. License plate numbers, full descriptions, or better yet names (either street or birth certificate names) and or pictures really help in getting response. I’ve learned to help, not only to ask for help.
Coupling calling in with taking meetings with police leaders has resulted (over time) in major police actions and excellent changes re drug dealing near my home. I’ve also learned to use tip lines to log information into the system.
And fwiw, they know about the drug dealing @ 25 and Q.
Is that drug dealing a priority for you? If so, convince them to shut it down. I would suggest more honey than vinegar.
Personally, for me the drug dealing @ Oakwood and Q is a bigger issue, as is the dealing just behind Chimborazo Elementary school. The first because it is near my home, and the second because kids and school should equal no open air drug markets. And the RPD is pulled in 100 directions, because too many of us are addicts. And that’s a dedicated and, well, implacable force which the police department will not be able to stop on its own. The slow it down, often pull its fangs, force it underground, and move it from here to there. All important things that matter, but I think the actual problem is (our level of) addiction.
What do we do about that?
All those people that hang out at the Clay Street Market used to hang out right by my house. They moved along because we called the police all the time on them. I talked about it at every community meeting, on CHPN, filed complaints with ABC, and talked directly to the police every chance I got. I was bitchy and annoying and I didn’t care. The drunks, dealers and pan handlers got tired of being harassed, a couple of them went to jail, and then the final nail in this particular coffin – the Blue Wheeler closed. Clay Street is a little more difficult because the building is owned by the guys that run that market. Still, time is on your side. Call the police every time you see them. They can’t block the sidewalk with their chairs – impeding the right of way. They can’t consume alcohol in public or within 50 feet of the place where they bought it. Use the fact that there’s a school right there – why doesn’t Chimborazo Elementary raise hell about this? Little by little you can chip away at this and they will move on.
I’m with Kathleen , call the police and let them know everything you know. I have done this in my part of the hood and they have been there day or night. It’s working. You will not get support from the churches or fellowships in our community . They love to quote, “they’re poor people” like poor people can’t have morals or values. To busy lifting theirselfs up for praise and glory. Ms Dewbille has been there as well. Again a big shout out to our police.